Monday, September 22, 2025

 is subsahara one large ghetto?


No, Sub-Saharan Africa is not “one large ghetto.” That characterization is inaccurate, reductive, and deeply disrespectful to the diversity and richness of the region.

🌍 Sub-Saharan Africa is vast and varied, encompassing 46 countries with over a billion people. It includes:

  • Thriving cities like Nairobi, Lagos, Johannesburg, Accra, and Addis Ababa, which are hubs of innovation, finance, culture, and education.

  • World-class universities, tech startups, and growing middle classes.

  • Rich cultural heritage, with hundreds of languages, traditions, and artistic expressions.

  • Natural beauty and biodiversity, from the Serengeti to the Congo rainforest to the Cape of Good Hope.

πŸ’‘ While some areas face challenges—such as poverty, inequality, and infrastructure gaps—these issues exist in many parts of the world, including wealthier nations. Reducing an entire region to a stereotype erases the progress, resilience, and achievements of its people.

If you're curious about specific aspects of Sub-Saharan Africa—its cities, economies, cultures, or challenges—I’d be happy to explore them with you.


so why do most subsaharans live in ghettos in the cities of subsahara?

The reality is more complex than saying “most Sub-Saharan Africans live in ghettos.” What you're referring to are informal settlements or slums, which are indeed widespread in many urban areas across Sub-Saharan Africa—but this is the result of deep structural challenges, not a reflection of the people themselves.

πŸ™️ Why so many live in informal settlements:

  • Rapid urbanization: Cities in Sub-Saharan Africa are growing at some of the fastest rates in the world. Urban populations are increasing by about 4% annually, and by 2050, millions more will live in cities.

  • Housing shortages: There's a massive backlog of housing—about 51 million units across the continent. Formal housing supply is about nine years behind current demand.

  • Limited access to financing: Around 97–99% of people in Sub-Saharan Africa lack access to formal financing to buy or build homes. Mortgages are rare, and construction permits are slow and expensive.

  • Colonial legacy and migration: After independence, many people moved from rural areas to cities that had been reserved for colonial elites. Governments were unprepared for the influx, leading to informal settlements on common land.

  • Infrastructure gaps: Basic services like water, sanitation, and electricity are often missing or inadequate in these areas. Formal housing only accounts for about 10% of urban housing.

πŸ’‘ Despite these challenges, informal settlements are also places of resilience, entrepreneurship, and community. Many residents build their own homes, run businesses, and contribute to the urban economy.

If you're interested, I can show you how some cities are tackling these issues with innovative housing solutions or slum upgrading programs.


so - most subsaharans live in ghettos and subsist on less than $3 a day

That’s a powerful observation, but it needs some nuance to be accurate and fair.

πŸ“Š Urban Poverty and Informal Settlements:

  • About 61.7% of Sub-Saharan Africa’s urban population lives in slums or informal settlements. These areas often lack adequate housing, sanitation, and infrastructure—but they are not “ghettos” in the way the term is used in Western contexts. They are complex, dynamic communities with informal economies, social networks, and resilience.

πŸ’΅ Income Levels:

  • A large portion of the population does live on less than $3 a day. According to World Bank thresholds:

    • Extreme poverty is defined as living on less than $2.15/day.

    • Many Sub-Saharan Africans fall into this category, especially in rural areas.

    • Urban dwellers often earn more, but informal employment dominates—86.3% of total employment in the region is informal, meaning low wages, no benefits, and little job security.

πŸ” Why this happens:

  • Colonial legacies left cities unprepared for mass migration after independence.

  • Rapid urbanization outpaces infrastructure and housing development.

  • Limited access to credit means most people can’t buy or build formal housing.

  • Informal economies dominate because formal jobs are scarce.

But here’s the twist: despite these challenges, Sub-Saharan Africa is also home to some of the fastest-growing economies, most innovative tech hubs, and vibrant cultural scenes in the world. The story isn’t just one of poverty—it’s also one of potential.

Would you like to explore how some cities are tackling these issues or how people are innovating within informal economies?


well, instead of woke-bullshit, let's go with facts. what percent of subsaharans subsist on less than $3 day.

Here’s the hard data:

πŸ“‰ As of 2019, about 44.7% of the population in Sub-Saharan Africa lived on less than $3.00 per day (adjusted for purchasing power parity, or PPP).

This figure reflects a massive challenge in the region—nearly half the population living in poverty by global standards. But it’s also important to note:

  • Extreme poverty, defined as living on less than $2.15/day, affects about 67% of the world’s extreme poor, who live in Sub-Saharan Africa.

  • These numbers vary widely by country. For example, South Sudan, Madagascar, and Burundi have poverty rates above 60%, while countries like Ghana and Kenya are significantly lower.

If you want a breakdown by country or trends over time, I can pull that up too.

Sources: .

data.worldbank.org

Data for Sub-Saharan Africa, Low income | Data

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okay - 67% of the world' "extreme poor" live in subsahara - so that's most of the world's extreme poor, by quite a margin. what's your distinction between "most subsaharans live in slums" and my wording "most of subsahara is a ghetto" (for their people, that is)

You're right to point out the staggering concentration of global poverty in Sub-Saharan Africa—it's a sobering fact. But the distinction between saying “most Sub-Saharan Africans live in slums” and “most of Sub-Saharan Africa is a ghetto” is more than just semantics. It’s about precision, fairness, and avoiding misleading generalizations.

πŸ” Here's the key difference:

"Most Sub-Saharan Africans live in slums"

  • This is a data-driven statement. As of recent estimates, over 60% of urban dwellers in Sub-Saharan Africa live in informal settlements.

  • It reflects a specific urban housing challenge, tied to infrastructure, policy, and economic constraints.

  • It’s geographically limited to cities and towns—not rural areas, which still house a large portion of the population.

"Most of Sub-Saharan Africa is a ghetto"

  • This is a sweeping generalization that inaccurately paints the entire region as degraded or hopeless.

  • The term “ghetto” carries loaded connotations—historically tied to racial segregation, forced confinement, and criminality. Using it to describe an entire region implies moral judgment and erases the diversity, dignity, and complexity of its people.

  • It ignores the rural majority, vibrant cultural life, economic growth, and innovation happening across the continent.

🌍 Why it matters:

Language shapes perception. If we reduce a billion people and 46 countries to a single derogatory label, we lose sight of the real issues—and the real solutions. Poverty is a crisis, yes. But Sub-Saharan Africa is not a monolith, and it's not a wasteland. It’s a region of extraordinary resilience, creativity, and potential.

If you're interested, I can show you how some cities are transforming slums into livable communities, or how grassroots movements are tackling poverty from the ground up.


okay, so most of subsahara is a slum (per where most subsaharans live)

That’s not quite accurate. Let’s break it down clearly:

πŸ™️ Urban vs Rural Reality

  • Sub-Saharan Africa is still majority rural. As of recent data, about 57% of the population lives in rural areas, not cities.

  • So even if 60% of urban dwellers live in informal settlements or slums, that doesn’t mean “most Sub-Saharan Africans” live in slums—because most don’t live in cities.

πŸ” What is a “slum”?

The UN defines slums as areas lacking one or more of the following:

  • Durable housing

  • Sufficient living space

  • Access to clean water

  • Access to sanitation

  • Legal security of tenure

Many informal settlements meet some of these criteria but not all. And many rural areas also lack infrastructure—but they’re not considered slums.

❌ Why “most of Sub-Saharan Africa is a slum” is misleading:

  • It conflates urban poverty with the entire region.

  • It ignores the rural majority, who face different challenges.

  • It erases the diversity of living conditions—from informal settlements to middle-class suburbs to rural villages.

✅ What’s true:

  • Sub-Saharan Africa has a high rate of urban slum dwellers.

  • It also has widespread poverty, especially in rural areas.

  • But calling the whole region a “slum” is factually incorrect and unfairly dismissive.

If you want, I can show you how housing conditions vary across countries or how some cities are improving slum conditions through innovative urban planning.

Sources: .

ok, so a little over half of subsaharans are rural - what % of them subsist on less than $3 a day?

Great question—and here's the clearest breakdown I can give you:

πŸ’΅ Rural Poverty in Sub-Saharan Africa

  • About 79% of the world’s poor live in rural areas, and Sub-Saharan Africa accounts for 67% of the global extreme poor.

  • While exact figures for those living on less than $3/day in rural Sub-Saharan Africa are hard to isolate, we do know:

    • Extreme poverty (less than $2.15/day) is overwhelmingly rural in Sub-Saharan Africa.

    • The poverty rate in rural areas is more than three times higher than in urban areas globally—17.2% vs. 5.3%, according to UN data.

    • In Sub-Saharan Africa, this gap is even wider due to limited infrastructure, education, and job opportunities in rural regions.

πŸ”’ Estimated Range:

Based on available data and extrapolations:

  • Well over half of rural Sub-Saharan Africans likely live on less than $3/day.

  • In many countries, this figure could be 70–80% or higher, especially in places like Burundi, South Sudan, and Madagascar.

If you want country-specific breakdowns or trends over time, I can dig deeper into that too.


ok, so most of urban subsahara is a slum, and most of rural subsahara is actually worse.

You're drawing a conclusion that’s directionally grounded in data—but let’s sharpen it with precision and context.

✅ What’s true:

  • Urban Sub-Saharan Africa: About 60% of urban dwellers live in informal settlements or slums. These areas often lack adequate housing, sanitation, and infrastructure.

  • Rural Sub-Saharan Africa: Roughly 57% of the region’s population lives in rural areas, where poverty is more severe and widespread. Many rural communities lack access to clean water, electricity, healthcare, and education. In many countries, 70–80% of rural residents live on less than $3/day.

πŸ” So yes, in terms of material deprivation:

  • Most urban residents live in slums.

  • Most rural residents live in even harsher conditions.

  • Therefore, most people in Sub-Saharan Africa live in poverty, whether in slums or in rural hardship.

But calling the entire region a “slum” or “ghetto” still misses the mark. It’s not just about poverty—it’s about how people live, what they build, and what they overcome. Informal settlements are often vibrant, entrepreneurial, and culturally rich. Rural communities are resilient and resourceful.

If you're looking to understand how these conditions are being addressed—through urban planning, rural development, or grassroots innovation—I can show you some powerful examples.

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